OptimizePress Versus Premise – Which Is Better?

Op vs premise

When Kajabi first launched, it seemed to raise the awareness in the market about automated marketing funnel systems. Kajabi was supposed to make squeeze pages, membership sites, all those little technical aspects of online marketing a lot easier.

Of course, Kajabi came with a monthly fee. So, it led people to look for alternatives. Sure, enough, there are many of them. I’ve looked at several of them, including Optimizepress, JVPress and Premise. There are others, too.

The two which get the most “press” seem to be Optimizepress and Premise. And this leads to the natural questions:

  1. What’s the difference between them?
  2. Which is better?

So, I thought I would do my best to answer these questions.

I will tell you, up front, that I personally prefer Optimizepress and have more experience with it. But, I own and have personally used both.

Optimizepress

Optimizepress is a WordPress theme designed to allow you to set up professional squeeze pages, sales pages and membership sites. When this theme is activated, you have a TON of custom page templates to choose from. So, you simply choose the type of page you want. Any page can be either a:

Any of these have many variations available. So, you select the type of page you want and then define all the various options for it.

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Aside from the visual elements of Optimizepress, the theme also automates evergreen launches. In other words, you can have a prelaunch sequence set up to run automatically (in conjunction with Aweber or whatever autoresponder you prefer). It takes care of setting the user cookie to ensure people who have opted in already are taken right to the correct page in the launch sequence. If they haven’t opted in yet, it routes them to opt-in first and then sends them on their way.

So, in short, Optimizepress can help you simplify or automate the following:

  • Evergreen launch funnels
  • Squeeze page creation
  • Fully functional membership site (only the theme, not the actual management which would be the job of something like Wishlist Member)
  • Sales page generation
  • All kinds of on-page elements, like video (using included video player), call to action buttons, timed release content, exit pops, etc.

Optimizepress also includes a blog template if you want to run a blog with it, although you might find you want to customize it further since blogs aren’t really what OP was designed for.

Premise

Premise is a plug-in for WordPress. This is one of the most marked differences between the two products. While Optimizepress is a theme, Premise runs as a plug-in which means it can run in conjunction with whatever theme you’ve chosen to run for your site.

Premise is designed mainly for landing pages and squeeze pages. This means that, unlike Optimizepress, Premise does NOT include any membership site features.

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One thing that Premise does which is unique, though, is the copywriting assistance and web-based copywriting training that comes with it. Basically, they’ve included backend access to some copywriting training and some buttons for 1-click sales templates. I think it is a nice selling point, but not one which will be necessary long-term, in my view. We’re buying a solution, not training, after all.

Premise also has a few things, design-wise, that Optimizepress currently doesn’t, including price comparison tables and tab-styled sales page (where you scroll sideways, similar to what I did on the 3DayMoney sales page). There are ways to do price tables with OP, however it is more of a manual process. As for tabbed sales pages, I find they don’t convert as well anyway, honestly. :) Premise also has a large library of design graphics piped in, and it is updated via their API.

So, Let’s Compare…

As I said before, I prefer Optimizepress and now I’m going to tell you why.

First, if you want to set up evergreen launch funnels, OP can do it and Premise cannot. Technically, you could do it with Premise (since much of it comes down to your autoresponder), but you wouldn’t have the ability to control the flow of the subscriber in that launch sequence.

Second, if you want to do membership sites, the membership site templates of Optimizepress are the best I’ve seen. They are simply awesome and you can make a VERY professional membership site training portal with OP. Premise simply lacks this.

From a technical perspective, the KEY difference is that OP is a theme and Premise is a plug-in. Since you can only have one active theme at a time with WordPress, you’ll need to set up separate WordPress installations for different setups with Optimizepress. This is not any kind of problem, however. In fact, when you bring a product to market, you’ll most likely use a separate site anyway.

The only time this might seem annoying is when you simply want a squeeze page on the same domain as your main blog. This is the one point where Premise does make it easier. Being that Premise is a plug-in, it will work along with your blog’s theme. That being said, the pages Premise creates DON’T jive with other themes and the design of your landing page will still be completely different looking than your main blog. Unless you get into some pretty ninja customization, that is.

So, either way, your landing page will look different than your main blog. With OP, you just need a separate WP installation and, with Premise, you don’t.

Which brings me to my last point…

I personally think that the designs of Optimizepress are far more professional looking than those of Premise. The output of Premise looks a bit more amateur, in my opinion. I recognize this is TOTALLY a matter of opinion, so you’ll need to make that call for yourself.

Lastly, I also personally found Optimizepress to be less complicated.

In my view, Premise offers less features for more money. If you value the training that comes with it, then perhaps Premise is a better way to go. If you absolutely insist on trying to do everything on a single WordPress installation, then Premise is the way to go on that. Otherwise, Optimizepress can do more, looks better, and costs less.

To be clear, Premise starts at $85 – which is cheaper than Optimizepress at $97. However, you only get 6 months of Premise updates unless you pony up $165. With Optimizepress, updates are unlimited.

So, There You Have It

Premise is a good system. I think one of the major competitive advantages of it is that it works in conjunction with any other WordPress theme. In a world where the 1-click installation of WordPress is all over the place, though, I really don’t see that as a major draw.

For most setups, Optimizepress outperforms. It does more, looks better, and has features designed for a serious marketer. All in all, it is more affordable, too.

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  • http://www.gainhigherground.com Rob Cornish

    Thanks David – appreciate your efforts on this post.

    I haven’t tried Premise myself but do use OptimizePress. Glad you agree that on balance, it is the best option!

  • http://www.WishListMemberTutorials.com/ David Walsh

    Hey David,

    Excellent post.

    I never knew about Premise, as it happens.  I have been looking for something like this, so thanks very much for the info :)

    Yeah, both have pros and cons, and depending what you’re looking for, each has their own strengths.

    OP is great if you want an all encompassing theme to handle the front end launch/squeeze page/sales page side of things together with the back end membership side of things.  But isn’t great it you want to integrate it with another site and/or theme. Which is where Premise comes in…

    Thanks again for the valuable info.  I now have something I can look at and will be definitely using in the future.

    David

  • Anonymous

    This is a very timley post for me, the information here is just what I need.  Thanks! 

  • http://sybersquad.com Christopher Knopick

    This post is timely for me as well as I’ve been thinking about this direction.  Dave do you use OP for your blueprint, for example, and then link back to DR in your autoresponder, or is it an island unto itself without distractions and you depend on the reader to get back on their own?  Let me know if I’m not making sense.  I guess I’m asking if it’s easy to use it in conjunction with a blog, or would Premise be better for that.

  • http://davidrisley.com David Risley

    You bet. :-)

    Premise will still take customization to make it match another theme. But, it does get around having to do a separate install of WP.

  • http://wpprobusiness.com Adam W. Warner

    Have you been spying in on my private forum messages? I was just having a conversation about this very subject YESTERDAY.

    Very timely and well documented differences. Thanks for a great post:)

  • http://davidrisley.com David Risley

    I’m using OP on BlogMastersClub.com, which is where the Blueprint is downloaded. The current homepage of that site is fully custom, but the rest of the site is using pretty much stock OP.

    In terms of where you send people to from your autoresponder, that’s a completely separate issue and would be independent of OP or Premise.

    In terms of the emails, either option will work fine with your blog (because it doesn’t matter). But, in terms of design integration, again…. Premise will work with your existing blog… but will still require customization to make things match.

  • Steven Davis

    Thanks, David! Really nice analysis of these products.

  • http://www.expertsmarketingcoach.com Trish Jones

    Hi David,

    I have both OptimizePress and Premise and I have to agree with you in terms of functionality and definitely the fact that OptimizePress is so much better looking.  Premise has its place but it does lack finesse! 

  • http://davidrisley.com David Risley

    I posted because a lot of people were asking. :-)

  • http://davidrisley.com David Risley

    OP was created by a graphics designer. Premise was created by copywriters. Its a big difference in terms of emphasis.

  • Ed Cochran

    Hello David,

    Great post. There are so many different ways to start, that it’s helpful to hear from people who have actually used specific products.

    Along those lines, are you familiar with Profits Theme by Get Profits Fast? I  haven’t used it but the ad copy for it is very interesting and it seems very similar to Optimize Press.

    Thanks for all the good info.

    Best regards,
    Ed

  • http://sybersquad.com Christopher Knopick

    Thanks for the info.

  • http://davidrisley.com David Risley

    Yeah, I came across it just recently. Honestly, my first reaction was that they ripped off Optimizepress. It looks *VERY* similar. Too similar, really. Not alleging anything, because I honestly don’t know. That’s just how it stuck me.

    It does appear to have some enhancements in the skins and blog theme areas, though.

  • http://www.herbalcoolingtea.com Ben Sanami (FB Liangcha)

    Nice review David! It makes me feel really good that I use Optimizepress now that I know you recommend it. Hey do you know how Optimizepress works with drip feed membership sites? I know MaxBlogPress has a new dripfeed member site but not sure if Optimizepress works with it. Any other suggestions are also welcome. Perhaps it’s a future OP release … ; )

  • SueAnne Roberts

    Thank you, David, for the comparison. I’m convinced and will choose Optimizepress.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for the detailed analysis of OP.  I just started building my first funnel yesterday and it’s amazing to see all the foresight that’s built into the tool.  I’m very glad I bought it
    Cheers
    Mark

  • http://davidrisley.com David Risley

    Since OP is a theme, drip feed is something which is beyond it’s scope. If you go to the guide I created on membership sites, though (linked in the sidebar), you’ll see me talk about a plug-in called WP Drip which works pretty nicely.

  • http://www.herbalcoolingtea.com Ben Sanami (FB Liangcha)

    Thanks I will check it out

  • http://www.sassywebwords.com Miss Sassy

    I’m about to start learning OptimizePress for a landing page. I’ve been told how good it is and James Dyson is apparently an excellent designer.

  • Paul F

    I tried purchasing Optimizepress – Cannot get to the checkout.
    Keeps telling me user name already exists – tried 3 different names/combination of mine, and different email addresses. Cleaned out the cashe also.
    Any Ideas? Money burning a hole in my pocket!!

  • Anonymous

    Hi David, I just wanted to get your thoughts if I can? I’ve just spoken with wishlist support and they advised that rather than setting up individual products on different optimizepress sites that I should use wishlist on my main site and manage all courses/content etc from one place. The benefit also being that I could sell them individually or have a ‘premium access’ for example to all courses. What are your thoughts on that? If you started again would you do it differently or do you like having each product on a different site? Note that I’ve never used either wishlist or optimizepress before, just want to set up with the best possible configuration from the beginning!

  • http://twitter.com/ITSergioFelix Sergio Felix

    I have a question that has been bothering me for quite some time…

    If Optimize Press is designed for squeeze pages, sales pages, membership sites, etc., isn’t it bad that you use all these resources on your main domain anyway because of the bounce hits for SEO?

    As in let’s say a traffic exchange, solo ads or something that brings a lot of traffic?

    I’ve seen a few succesful guys having these modules separated (main blog and OP) by using either subdomains or entire different domains and not complaining at all.

    What are your thoughts on this?

  • Anonymous

    Thats interesting Sergio, that’s quite relevant to my question. If I put all my courses on the same site but promote each one individually it may well get a high bounce caused by those sales pages, would that effect the rankings of the whole site?

  • http://www.GreatSiteIdeas.com Stephen Miracle

    I have not had any experience with OptimizePress primarily because it is an entire theme.I like the fact Premise is a plugin that fits within most themes. In my opinion, I believe that this is what the majority of sites need. They don’t need an entire theme for a couple of products. They just need a couple of optimized pages and Premise is perfect for this.

    On the other hand, I could see Optimize Press being perfect for entire membership sites that aren’t separate blogs. Because the entire site is much like a squeeze page, then it is perfect.

  • Anonymous

    Hey David, just wanted to come back to this. On reflection I think optimizepress for individual courses ‘off site’ is the way forward. I’m going to buy it, and will use your affiliate link of course :0) I have however seen very simple wishlist solutions, like wpmember, a free plugin to protect content. I realise wishlist does more than just protect content, buy how essential do you think it is if it’s a one time, no drip, no evergreen product access. Any help appreciated. 

  • Joey

    Thanks David this is much appreciated as I’ve just bought OP but was considering Premise for ease of installation. I think I understand how OP works as a membership site but does it just mean that the membership pages are password protected? Also any tips on creating a membership site/portal with a full social community forum package would be really helpful. Is this something that could be connected with OP? Many thanks?